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I don't remember where I read it, some user I think on BB forum. They said: "Pickups (trucks) are SO overated". I couldn't agree more!

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Word.
Especially wintertime in the city.
It's a toss up if the rain ruins your shit or they steal it first.

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11-01-2011 12:01 AM
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Mine is a truck as well. Overload sprangs, turbo sways, and Michelin Agilis 81 tires mounted on the steelies. Rides like a UPS truck, but it's way more useful than a truck, and way more rust proof

Has a transmission in the back, along with tools and other various crap (weighed in at 3500 pounds today when I drove on a scale)

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11-01-2011 01:13 AM
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Don't get me wrong trucks have their place, [the country] , and things to haul [stuff that doesn't fit, or you wouldn't put in a car{garbage}], towing ect.
But really they start at 3/4 to 1 ton..

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11-01-2011 01:30 AM
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How much weight can you put in a 245 with overloads?
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I just wanna know what needs to be done to reasonably safely tow another brick on a trailer
11-01-2011 10:12 AM
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Srock springs can handle a total of 1220 lbs, including driver, passengers, and whatever's in the back. Suspect the overloads would bring it up to 1500 or so. Those ratings are for non-turbo wagons, running 185R14's or 205/70R14's, etc... Turbo wagons were rated for 970 lbs, IIRC (would have to go out to look at the sticker on my car to verify), so probably 1200 on a turbo with overloads.

Re: towing - ATF cooler, if it's an autotragic, heavy-duty clutch if not, overload coils, factory Volvo (or equivalent Class II) hitch, trailer brakes. Just the usual stuff. Friend of mine towed a '74 145E with his '72 145E (equipped with a B23F/M46 combo from an '83 242DL). It was slow going, but the car did make it 50 miles to Seattle.

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(11-01-2011 10:12 AM)linuxman51 Wrote:  I just wanna know what needs to be done to reasonably safely tow another brick on a trailer
Realistically 250 Hp or a decent V8 & trailer brakes.

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11-01-2011 10:34 AM
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(11-01-2011 10:12 AM)linuxman51 Wrote:  I just wanna know what needs to be done to reasonably safely tow another brick on a trailer

Talk to casio, but I agree with trailer brakes, a good hitch, 250HP might be a bit high even, you don't really have that big of hills where you live

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(11-01-2011 11:36 AM)WindowsBreakerG4 Wrote:  
(11-01-2011 10:12 AM)linuxman51 Wrote:  I just wanna know what needs to be done to reasonably safely tow another brick on a trailer

Talk to casio, but I agree with trailer brakes, a good hitch, 250HP might be a bit high even, you don't really have that big of hills where you live

The general rule of thumb is, do not exceed the weight of your fully loaded tow vehicle with the weight of what is being towed (including the trailer itself!). If you do, you are MUCH more at risk to jack-knifing. Basically, your combined total trailer weight should not exceed about 3500lbs. That said, I know a lot of people have towed volvos with other volvos (ala 740 towing 240, 240 towing 240, etc).

Anything over 2000lbs, you are required to have a brake controller in california. This is also just a common sense thing. I have a prodigy p3. Progressive/intelligent brake controllers are very good.

HP is only relevant to keeping the trailer moving up hills or executing passes. I tow ~3000lbs yearly and the stock boosted volvos can *JUST* keep the trailer moving up a average hill at about 60mph. But you're riding boost the whole time.

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Don't even need a wagon!

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(11-01-2011 11:36 AM)WindowsBreakerG4 Wrote:  
(11-01-2011 10:12 AM)linuxman51 Wrote:  I just wanna know what needs to be done to reasonably safely tow another brick on a trailer

Talk to casio, but I agree with trailer brakes, a good hitch, 250HP might be a bit high even, you don't really have that big of hills where you live

A 22re 2wd 1 ton pickup can tow a medium sized Kubota just fine, so a redblock car should be able to as well, assuming the rubber stuff holding the rear axle doesn't go. You don't need HP to tow, you need torque.
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Dude Andy flat towed a 242 with his fully loaded wagon to Colorado...
02-01-2012 12:29 AM
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(02-01-2012 12:29 AM)FalunBrick Wrote:  Dude Andy flat towed a 242 with his fully loaded wagon to Colorado...

And it broke
02-01-2012 01:39 AM
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We recently picked up a chest freezer and a dishwasher, the guys at the loading dock were shocked they both fit. I wasn't - we had room to spare and hit up the grocery store before going home.

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It did not break down at all.

Had to pull over a few times to let 'er cool down as the E-Fan wasn't working optimally, but that was it. 1k miles of driving with about 1,500 lbs of weight spread between both cars.. Got 17mpg even out of it. The AW-71 did just fine, in 3rd gear the whole way.

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I'd do it again. Fuck trucks.

(02-01-2012 01:39 AM)urbanwheeler Wrote:  
(02-01-2012 12:29 AM)FalunBrick Wrote:  Dude Andy flat towed a 242 with his fully loaded wagon to Colorado...

And it broke
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This makes me lol.

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I put a LOT of weight in mine (weighed in at 3960 with me in it on the scales) and it does OK, but the trans isn't geared to deal with that kind of weight. Hauling lots of weight is probably the fastest way to put this car into non runner (transmission slipping) status.
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My Sub is such a wuss it starts to be a handful around 15000GCVW Sad

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(04-22-2012 09:01 PM)urbanwheeler Wrote:  I put a LOT of weight in mine (weighed in at 3960 with me in it on the scales) and it does OK, but the trans isn't geared to deal with that kind of weight. Hauling lots of weight is probably the fastest way to put this car into non runner (transmission slipping) status.

The OP's car had a slipping Aw70 when I got it back in '07. Flushed the tranny fluid, and it worked fine for the rest of the time we owned it. Just leaked like a sieve. Sold the car to the OP in June of last year.

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Wow that's one heavy duty wagon.
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