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Caster Camber Plates 940
Working on a caster/camber plate setup for the TechnoToys plate. Have it all cad'd out and will work on the test cut ones and finalize the weld on ring.

This is mainly for raising the strut top and using the stock inserts with a lowered car and a coil conversion setup like the Coleman sleeve. It will raise the pocket 2 inches.

Same setup I have my car.

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
The plate lays right on top of mine......not to bad for the first trial cut!

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
So we buy your plates and their plates? Those look cool! wonder if they could be drilled to bolt in (granted you'd probably have to cut the strut tower some)

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
There might be to much of a curve to the stock 7/9 series strut top. Yes tho, but the Techno caster plate, and my camber/strut top plate with welded on ring.....you cut your strut top and weld it to the tower. I was able to run full length Billys with the bumps cut and actually have more compression than the tires will allow at this point.

This would be a weld in kit, and some care taken to keep the angle of the existing setup. But with a solid head, and feeling good about the project, I had mine cut and welded in 45 mins.
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
I've seen people do this to Chrysler Conquests and it is by far the best way to lower your car. And as always Nathan, amazing work! And the guys at Techno toys are great they made a bunch of one off stuff for my buddy's 280zx
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
you know I'm down for a set bud, I guess all my hounding you in PMs payed off.

I'd like a 'just top plate' option, so I can get rid of the silly 4" spacer under my strut insert and cut my tube down like I've been wanting to. Or do you think it would be too hard to weld the flat plate to the strut top, better to use the stand off section?

Would it be possible to etch in a guide mark to maybe line up with the strut to firewall bracket? to have a guide to centering these. Or is it pretty obvious once you've got them in your hand?
11-26-2011 03:31 PM
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Well here they are. Got 6 cut for the guys who showed some interest. Other than Toby, just need to roll the 10g rings later next week. As far as location, I can etch on them, but its basically forward back, with the offset more towards the rear.

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oh hey I'm interested. oh wait, besides me.... /sadface

what do you think about running the plate without the 10ga ring for those of us with cut down strut tubes?
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Im sure these could be welded in place flat after cutting some of the top out. Theres quite the curve to the stock strut top that even if I rolled the 10g ring, you dont have to place it high in the tower. After the Coil coversion theres room to leave the ring in place.
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
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And an 18 inch tire stiffed into the well.

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Where are you getting those spring tops?

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
The camber plates and the spring tops are from tecnotoys. its a really nice unit with a roller bearing setup.
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
The camber plates and the spring tops are from tecnotoys. its a really nice unit with a roller bearing setup.
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Crap, not double-posting here now as well......

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Item in question. http://www.technotoytuning.com/productdetail.php?p=819 for Nissan S13

My S-body drifter friends really like their products.

I'd imagine with Nathan's plates one could run any S13 strut top.

(turns out it's the AE86 strut top pattern, not the S13 one. I tried an s13 strut mount and it didn't fit)
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
I used there smallest bolt pattern camber plate, something like a 4 inch cirlce because of the the rear offset in the bucket already. If anyone is interested in that, Im more than happy to call technotoys and discuss which plate I bought.
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Any chance you'd make a bar that'd run between the towers too? I don't think a cherry brace would clear with them up that high

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
I could, and also make a trick mount that welded to the side of it. Id have to look into that.
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Could easily put a stud off the side and do a single bar across.

Nice work Nathan.

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Beautiful work man! Maybe I will go this route some day.. I just hate the idea of chopping up the strut tower. But I'm sure it's worth it for the serious suspension folks we've got around here.

I like the idea of including a way to mount a bar.

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
I think I'm pulling my intake off this weekend......and when I do ill look at the mount and a bar type to go there.

I still need to get the rings rolled and weled onto these.
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I've got a set in my hand, it is the high quality piece we have come to expect from Nathan. Now to get them installed. ^_^


Pics to follow as I get going on this project.
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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
Decided on 7" 400#/in springs. Should have these installed in May. I've got something extreme in mind.

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RE: Caster Camber Plates 940
LOL installed in May.... Not so much.

So I finally get my trans issues ironed out, took a small break and now I got back on the horse with this Caster/Camber plate coil over install.

The install went very smoothly. The longest part time wise was me doing the RnR of the strut assemblies. It was a full 8hr day. The measure/mark/cut/test fit/weld took about 3-4hrs

I did not shorten my strut housings. I'm using Koni 8610-1437RACE inserts sourced from Kaplhenke. A 3.5" section of 2" DOM tubing dropped into the bottom of the strut tube to fit the shorter inserts.


Here's the highlights: Unfortunately no pics of me or my beard Undecided


I bead blasted and primed the plates. I'm sure everyone knows by now that Nathan's an amazing welder... well here's another reminder- nice!
The prototypes I got needed a little clean up on the caster adjustment slots. I used a dremel tool, in 5min they were squared up and the plates slide easy through the adjustment slot.

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After pulling the strut assemblies I lined up the plates and marked the outline.
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Measured a few places from the fender line of the car to match left and right. I took about 3-4 key measurements basically where the lines intersected the bumps on the strut tower.
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Once I was satisfied with how they lined up we got to cutting. Well I say "we" but I really mean my friend Josh, who's a very skilled fabricator and welder.
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No turning back now. He left the line (to not make the hole too big) and had to do a little grinding with a flap disk to get the fit just right.
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Well deserved fudge-sickle break.
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One side tacked on for a test fit.
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To test how high we needed to mount the plates we installed a strut assembly and put a jack under it. The purpose of this was 2 fold. 1: to get a cool pic of the wheel hella-sunk. 2: to make sure there is clearance with the hood and the top of the strut, and to see if there's enough compression travel... plenty
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Not even on the bump stop
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Once satisfied, we measured the height of the tacked on side, matched the other and Josh went to work.
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Action welding shot
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Action welding shot
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Some nice wire feed work.

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I did a quick wire brush and scuffed it with sand paper and laid some paint on it.
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Here is the assembled strut
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Shot from underneath. It's just a little too low for me, there's about 2" of upward adjustment, but then I'm possibly going to run into coil bind. I should have gone with a 10" long spring.
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I know it's a sexy height, but I want it a little higher. The angle on the control arms is pretty poor (someday we will get rollcorrectors for the 7/9xx).
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The height is good, real close to where it was on the oil ipd springs, still a bit low. I've got about 1.5" of upward adjustment, I can really see how a 10" spring would work a lot better. Lower the adjuster to get the coil bind to take place in the adjuster section and not where the strut insert is working. I'll see about getting a 10" 400# to replace the 7
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